Or if you're a single parent, the idea that you're now having sex with someone else that isn't your child's other parent is something that you are somehow proud of. There are dynamics in certain households where the idea that one is sexual or one is having sex is something that you are pushing in the face of your parents. The real question is, what's going on with the contestant that somehow makes doing this in front of your mother in front of your son titillating or exciting, or somehow sexier? Is it possible that there are some people on the show who are genuinely interested in dating people who are older or who are much younger? Of course. It's so hard to say without actually analyzing somebody. That makes sense-but do you think there could still be a degree of reality? What does it take to say, “I want to do this in front of the whole country, in front of whoever's watching the show.” They're also-let's face it-none of these people are good enough actors to really pull off the idea that this isn't also scripted, or at least outlined. The question is kind of less about Freud and more about toxic narcissism. I don't know if there are such things as “cougar bars,” for example, but if you went into a cougar bar, I think you'd see a very different dynamic than you do on a show like this. “The question is kind of less about Freud and more about toxic narcissism.” People will do a lot of things for those two things that they might not do in the real world. And B, they're getting to be on television. The reality is-and I use that word very sparingly-there are two incentives going on here that muddy the whole question of this. I was thinking about that, and the truth is, it's a very different notion, or it's a very different construct, to have this occur in the real world versus having it occur on television. I think for pretty obvious reasons, a lot of the talk around the show is like, “Oh man, Freud would have a field day with this one!” ![]() It might be as simple as, “Yeah, I have a crazy high credit card bill, and this is going to help me pay it off. It sounds judgmental, and I don't mean for it to be! It’s more like, I'm fascinated to know why you decided to do this. But I will say that if I were on that set, I'd be very curious to talk to those people. It feels a little weird and not very professional, frankly, to guess at these people's reasons. If you're a 23-year-old man, maybe… Again, I'm not saying this is true, because I haven't watched the show, but maybe there's a guy on the show that's in the closet, and he just thinks, “Wow, if I can go on a show and I have all these women fawning over me, maybe that can help me stay in the closet.” I don't know. There are some people who have felt like a wallflower their whole lives, and suddenly somebody wants to put them on television. Somebody wants to actually pay me to go on a set and have 23-year-olds argue about which one gets to make out with me? You forget about the fact that it's fantasy, it's Hollywood, it's television. If you have a desperate need to feel attractive that life isn't giving you, boy, this is a great way to do that. If a 22-year-old guy with a six-pack on a television show is flirting with you, it's very easy to get lulled into this idea that you're really, really hot. I know you don’t know any of these people, but what would you say if you had to guess about their motivation for doing MILF Manor ?Ĭertain people have certain connections to seeing themselves as attractive. ![]() You have to sort of ask yourself, what is it that makes someone want to do something like this? But this seems like a particularly egregious concept to agree to. No judgment-people do television for all sorts of reasons. My impression was: “Oh boy, some people just really are desperate to be on TV.” Yeah. It must have been their initial reveal-the guy's like, “Oh, my God, is that my mom?” And then, a montage clip where it was various guys talking about the moms and vice versa. In preparation for this, I watched a couple of clips of the show-I didn't know it existed, so I'm super new to the whole notion of it. VICE: So, what do you already know about MILF Manor ? ![]() “Are these women genuinely interested in dating a man who's 25? Or is the idea of being on TV and getting paid for it too good to pass up?” Tough to say, but, you know… we can still hazard a few guesses into what’s going on beneath MILF Manor’s tight and shiny surface. “Are these men really interested in older women?” Scheman asked. Why would someone participate in this carnival of depravity? And why do I love it? To gain a little more insight, I spoke with psychoanalyst Michael Scheman, who offered his expert opinion with the major caveat that without actually speaking to any of these contestants, their true motives would remain unknowable.
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